Well just got them and while the its actually a bit big at the waist, its nothing a belt or even a alteration couldn't fix

tly they look and fit exactly like any regular pair of jeans I have in W30xL30

I've determined that the fit issue that I had with the HB's and the other brand I just tried is that they are cut with a seat thats more akin to a regular fit jean than a relaxed fit jean so unless you have a reasonably flat butt these jeans may not fit you, unless you buy them a few sizes larger but then they will look like clown pants

Certainly no problem accommodating the knee guards and hip pads but I look like I am swimming in the jeans

There is even a reflective strip on the inside back part of the pant leg

Inseam length was good as well