So I am returning them as well

Inseam length was good as well

There is even a reflective strip on the inside back part of the pant leg

I like the way they blended the horizontal stitchs that go across the knees to hold the knee guard pockets

I was a bit concerned that they would be too tight with the knee and hip pads in them but they surprised me again by fitting well with all the padding in place

It fit well around the waist, lower thighs and legs and accommodated the knee pads without issue